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NYTIMES article: Knowbotic Research
Sven, Alex,
replying
to: http://netartcommons.walkerart.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/14/0414200&mode=thread
> Is there
a paucity of intellectual political debate in the public artistic sphere,
on issues around privacy, secuity, and open information?
Don't let
us get into a 'i'm more illegal than you are' discussion. alex's point
is in a way valid, and it shows that mirapaul's article is imprecise,
but that is not a problem, so long as people don't start discuss the mass
medias truth value - the point of Mirapauls article (and of his questions)
was directed at the *news value* of the story.
if the discussion is supposed to go a for me challenging direction, it
needs to continue the analysis of the relationship between technology,
art and legality.
There was no real problem until now with the New Museum, they let our
project go to articulate the legal bug, it would have been a mistake not
to make the legal bug visible after we had met him. Therefore we decided
not to portscan from Europe after our legal US port
scanner was shut down. So here is the string i would like to suggest,
let us enact the legal bug:
Wendy Seltzer,
http://openlaw.org
Your experience here is actually a very interesting part of the project.
It demonstrates how private parties can exert control of the public domain
well beyond what the law requires. Even with institutional support for
your installation, you are often at the mercy of other economic actors
-- the ISPs whom the museum and you depend on for connectivity, who in
turn depend upon higher-up ISPs to preserve their connections to the Internet.
Any player in this chain has the ability to break the connection and prevent
you from displaying and contributing to the public discussion, based on
its own feelings, contracts, and interpretations of the law, before any
judge is called in to determine whether the activity is legal.
Steve Dietz:
The fact that Minds of Concern is potentially undermined by the legal
system in the form of a standard or "shrinkwrap" license the
New Museum has with its ISP is not insignificant. It is precisely a legal
bug and the strategy by which so much of the public domain in the U.S.,
at least, escapes Constitutional and other legal protections by entering
into [voluntarily?] contractual agreements that void and/or supercede
these supposed rights.
Commment
Mailing List Lachlan Brown:
Indeed, the distinction between assumed rights and legal guarantee of
rights, public and private, residesin an interstitial state. Not a 'grey
area' to be filled in between the public and private by new conditions
for cyber' space, but a contest in which like a Venn Diagramme the public
and private vie over the terrain they both occupy.
Add to this the interests of several dozen States, thousands of public
service institutions hundreds of thousands of companies and millions of
users, well... . What would we call it? War? Wrestling? or Seduction?
A Million times a million contests. Cultural confusion.These webs of the
law are durable and have easy translation to the new media distributive
terrain. Despite word play or administrative/bureaucratic assumptions
of power. The really interesting fact is that States, institutions, companies,
individuals, but not collectivities like artists, writers, coders, primary
producers and so on, are beginning to 'stand-off' this terrain. We might,
after all, consider a return to the question of the aesthetic, and then
of policy, and thenof law over several years. It will become clear as
we do so that we NEED insitutions, new institutions perhaps, that are
able to host the work you do.
>This comment made me wonder what kind of legal investigation had preceded
the installation of the work - on behalf of the artists, and the curators,
and in fact the museum?
I worked
with Wendy Seltzer on the legality of the portscanning in the US after
the patriot act. The value of being legal as an artist in an art show
was set at highest priority from the curators of the Open_Source_Art_Hack
show and the New Museum and was the condition of being part of the show.
Critical Art Ensemble brought the legal letter from their lawyer to stay
in the show, Knowbotic resisted bringing this letter but we blocked information
in the net.publication of the analysed security lacks of the NGO servers
(we were displaying the security wholes, but we were hiding the relating
IP adresses). With this tactical step we coud make the Public Domain Scanner
going, and locate more precisely the dimensions of the actual legal questionable
dimensions of the net.public domain and thus hit the legal(?) authority
of private, economic actors (providers) . As you see 2 different artistic
tactical styles inside the same museum show.
Let us look forward on the project of Critical Ensemble, the performance
scheduled on the last day of the exhibition.
christian
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<nettime> KR
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reports
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Server
Migration US
Port
scanning is legal in the US
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provider vs kr
CRACKED
..Minds of concern::breakingnews...!!
May 12,2002
13.5.:New
York Times Article
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NYTIMES article
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NYTIMES article
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NYTIMES article: KR
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wired article
[
thing] review
19.5.:
Sonntagszeitung
13.6.: neural.it
14.6.:NZZ
(original
article)
Invitation to the open source exhibition
curated by Steve Dietz and Jenny Markatou (?)
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