| RE:3 
        NYTIMES article: Knowbotic Research
 Sven, Alex,
 replying 
        to: http://netartcommons.walkerart.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/14/0414200&mode=thread > Is there 
        a paucity of intellectual political debate in the public artistic sphere, 
        on issues around privacy, secuity, and open information?  Don't let 
        us get into a 'i'm more illegal than you are' discussion. alex's point 
        is in a way valid, and it shows that mirapaul's article is imprecise, 
        but that is not a problem, so long as people don't start discuss the mass 
        medias truth value - the point of Mirapauls article (and of his questions) 
        was directed at the *news value* of the story.if the discussion is supposed to go a for me challenging direction, it 
        needs to continue the analysis of the relationship between technology, 
        art and legality.
 There was no real problem until now with the New Museum, they let our 
        project go to articulate the legal bug, it would have been a mistake not 
        to make the legal bug visible after we had met him. Therefore we decided 
        not to portscan from Europe after our legal US port
 scanner was shut down. So here is the string i would like to suggest, 
        let us enact the legal bug:
 Wendy Seltzer, 
        http://openlaw.orgYour experience here is actually a very interesting part of the project. 
        It demonstrates how private parties can exert control of the public domain 
        well beyond what the law requires. Even with institutional support for 
        your installation, you are often at the mercy of other economic actors 
        -- the ISPs whom the museum and you depend on for connectivity, who in 
        turn depend upon higher-up ISPs to preserve their connections to the Internet. 
        Any player in this chain has the ability to break the connection and prevent 
        you from displaying and contributing to the public discussion, based on 
        its own feelings, contracts, and interpretations of the law, before any 
        judge is called in to determine whether the activity is legal.
 Steve Dietz: 
        The fact that Minds of Concern is potentially undermined by the legal 
        system in the form of a standard or "shrinkwrap" license the 
        New Museum has with its ISP is not insignificant. It is precisely a legal 
        bug and the strategy by which so much of the public domain in the U.S., 
        at least, escapes Constitutional and other legal protections by entering 
        into [voluntarily?] contractual agreements that void and/or supercede 
        these supposed rights.
 Commment 
        Mailing List Lachlan Brown: Indeed, the distinction between assumed rights and legal guarantee of 
        rights, public and private, residesin an interstitial state. Not a 'grey 
        area' to be filled in between the public and private by new conditions 
        for cyber' space, but a contest in which like a Venn Diagramme the public 
        and private vie over the terrain they both occupy.
 Add to this the interests of several dozen States, thousands of public 
        service institutions hundreds of thousands of companies and millions of 
        users, well... . What would we call it? War? Wrestling? or Seduction? 
        A Million times a million contests. Cultural confusion.These webs of the 
        law are durable and have easy translation to the new media distributive 
        terrain. Despite word play or administrative/bureaucratic assumptions 
        of power. The really interesting fact is that States, institutions, companies, 
        individuals, but not collectivities like artists, writers, coders, primary 
        producers and so on, are beginning to 'stand-off' this terrain. We might, 
        after all, consider a return to the question of the aesthetic, and then 
        of policy, and thenof law over several years. It will become clear as 
        we do so that we NEED insitutions, new institutions perhaps, that are 
        able to host the work you do.
 >This comment made me wonder what kind of legal investigation had preceded 
        the installation of the work - on behalf of the artists, and the curators, 
        and in fact the museum?
 I worked 
        with Wendy Seltzer on the legality of the portscanning in the US after 
        the patriot act. The value of being legal as an artist in an art show 
        was set at highest priority from the curators of the Open_Source_Art_Hack 
        show and the New Museum and was the condition of being part of the show. 
        Critical Art Ensemble brought the legal letter from their lawyer to stay 
        in the show, Knowbotic resisted bringing this letter but we blocked information 
        in the net.publication of the analysed security lacks of the NGO servers 
        (we were displaying the security wholes, but we were hiding the relating 
        IP adresses). With this tactical step we coud make the Public Domain Scanner 
        going, and locate more precisely the dimensions of the actual legal questionable 
        dimensions of the net.public domain and thus hit the legal(?) authority 
        of private, economic actors (providers) . As you see 2 different artistic 
        tactical styles inside the same museum show. Let us look forward on the project of Critical Ensemble, the performance 
        scheduled on the last day of the exhibition.
 christian |   1 
  2 
  3 
  4 
  5 
  6 
   
   
  
   
   
  
    (original 
        article)
 
   Invitation to the open source exhibition
  curated by Steve Dietz and Jenny Markatou (?)
 
 
   |